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The Coin Analyst: U.S. Mint News – Modern Coins Update

By Louis Golino for CoinWeek ………..

Kennedy gold coin options

The Citizens Coinage Advisory Commission  met on February 11 to discuss a range of issues including designs for the 2015 America the Beautiful quarters, the possible issuance of a special 24 carat (.9999 fine) gold half dollar marking the 50th anniversary of the issuance of the John F. Kennedy half dollar in 1964, and other issues.

During the meeting commission members discussed their preferences for the coins and considered mock-up obverse designs provided by the Mint’s staff, but they were unable to reach a consensus on the coin’s details, which will be discussed again after the Mint’s survey data is available. The main issues discussed included: whether to use a dual date (1964-2014) as on the 1976 bicentennial coins, or a standard 2014 date; whether the coin should have its gold fineness indicated and where that should be placed; whether to place the “W” mintmark for the West Point Mint (where the coin will be struck) on the obverse or the reverse; and whether the coin should have the same weight as the original half dollar, which would mean a gold content of about three-quarters of an ounce, or if it should be thicker, possibly a high relief coin, and contain one ounce.

kennedy gold half The Coin Analyst: U.S. Mint News   Modern Coins UpdateThe option included in the Mint’s recent survey said the coin would cost about $1200-1300 based on current gold prices, which assumes a coin of the same weight as a half dollar. A one-ounce coin with around $1300 of gold at current market price would cost something on the order of $1500 after factoring in production costs and the Mint’s profit mark-up.

One commission member expressed concern that scammers would gold plate regular JFK halves and try to pass them as the 2014 gold commemoratives, but the W mintmark would make the 2014 coin easily distinguishable as would a dual date.

The original design for the 1964 half dollar that was made by U.S. Mint Chief Engraver Gilroy Roberts and that depicts a bust of President Kennedy will be used for the obverse, but the reverse design has not been determined yet.

A lot of discussion regarding this coin both during the CCAC meeting and in the numismatic press has focused on the issue of the coin’s affordability, and whether a gold coin would be beyond the reach of many collectors.

Numismatic News editor David Harper has stated that the coin should not be issued because those who want to have complete sets of JFK halves would need to acquire one, and some might not be able to afford to do so. He further suggested that the money that would go towards the gold coins would be better spent on other coins, but those decisions will be made by individual collectors, many of whom are eager for a JFK gold coin and who plan to save up for it, or to curtail other coin purchases so they can obtain it when it is released, which at this point seems likely to be during the second half of the year. Besides, the Mint issues many other expensive gold and platinum coins.

As I stated previously , to me the key issue is how many coins are made (enough for coin collectors and others who might want the coin, but not too many which would make the coin so common its aftermarket value would be diminished) and how the coins are sold (with household limits, minted to demand, etc.).

James Bucki, another coin writer, has suggested  that the coin should be selectively gold-plated in similar fashion to coins issued by the Royal Canadian Mint for their special high-end silver proof sets. But our Mint has never issued such coins, and from what I have heard from collectors about this issue in general, I suspect gold-plating would not be very popular with most collectors.

Finally, those who worry about the expense of the gold coin seem to forget that other, less expensive coins will also be issued for the occasion, including special clad and silver sets that are already being produced, and possibly other coins.

Baseball Hall of Fame coins coming March 27

The much-anticipated 2014 Baseball Hall of Fame commemorative coin program will be launched on March 27 with the release of a $5 gold coin, silver dollar, and clad half dollar in proof and uncirculated condition. All the coins will have a common obverse showing a baseball glove, and a common reverse depicting a baseball. They will also all be the first curved shaped coins issued by the U.S. Mint with a concave obverse, and a convex reverse. The Mint consulted with the Australian Mint and French Mint on these coins because both have previously issued curved coins. It is unclear if the Mint will also issue any sets of these coins such as a 6-coin set with one of each coin issued.

As soon as I heard the coins were being launched on March 27, it occurred to me that the Whitman Expo in Baltimore, Maryland begins the same day, and that the show would be a great venue for selling the new coins. The Mint provided the following in response to my inquiry about whether the coins will be sold at the show: “The United States Mint has not yet determined whether or not we will be able to sell the 2014 Baseball Hall of Fame Commemorative Coins at the Whitman Coin Show. We will decide shortly before the show based on available inventory.”

Display examples of the coins will be available at the Atlanta World’s Fair of Money held from February 27 to March 1.

5 oz silver ATB and First Spouse coins series

In response to an inquiry I made to the Mint regarding why none of the 2014 issues in both the First Spouse $10 gold and five-ounce silver America the Beautiful coin series have been added to the Mint’s product schedule, the Mint provided the following information: “The First Spouse Gold Coin and America the Beautiful Silver Uncirculated Coin™ Programs require approval by the Secretary of the Treasury (or designee) to set program mintage levels prior to coins going on sale. The proposed mintage limits submitted by the United States Mint to the secretary were approved on February 24, 2014. Accordingly, we are developing a 2014 program release schedule. The Great Smoky Mountains National Park America the Beautiful Silver Uncirculated Coin will be the first to go on sale, in late March.” Presumably the bullion versions of the five-ounce coins will also be available around that date.

Audited Data Released on First Spouse and other coins

The Mint recently released a lot of final, audited mintage data on collector coins issued between 2009 and 2012, which reflect changes from the original, unaudited sales figures. Until the audited data was made available the sales data was the only information available. The audited data includes adjustments to sales data for coins and sets that were ordered but not sent to customers because those orders could not be fulfilled due to insufficient inventory, credit card problems, and other issues.

This data is a real treasure trove for astute collectors since mintage levels are a key factor in determining the value of modern coins. In some cases the changes are quite significant. Unlike classic coins, where the number of coins that still exist after melting is so important, for the most part it can be assumed that most modern collector coins still exist. There are of course exceptions to that such as the 2007 First Spouse coins, many of which were melted, and common silver coins like proof sets and commemoratives that have been melted.

The Mint’s web site has a section  that has the new data on silver and gold eagles, gold Buffalos, and special collector sets from 2009 to 2012.

In addition the Mint released the final, audited data for the 2009-2011 First Spouse gold coins, which was provided to me by the Mint:

modern coins golino oct The Coin Analyst: U.S. Mint News   Modern Coins Update2009 First Spouse Coins

Anna Harrison Proof = 6,251
Anna Harrison Uncirculated = 3,645
Letitia Tyler Proof = 5,296
Letitia Tyler Uncirculated = 3,240
Julia Tyler Proof = 4,844
Julia Tyler Uncirculated = 3,143
Sarah Polk Proof = 5,151
Sarah Polk Uncirculated = 3,489
Margaret Taylor Proof = 4,936
Margaret Taylor Uncirculated = 3,627

2010 First Spouse Coins

Abigail Fillmore Proof = 6,130
Abigail Fillmore Uncirculated = 3,482
Jane Pierce Proof = 4,775
Jane Pierce Uncirculated = 3,338
Buchanan Liberty Proof = 7,110
Buchanan Liberty Uncirculated = 5,162
Mary Lincoln Proof = 6,861
Mary Lincoln Uncirculated = 3,695

2011 First Spouse Coins

Eliza Johnson Proof = 3,887
Eliza Johnson Unc = 2,905
Julia Grant Proof = 3,943
Julia Grant Unc = 2,892
Lucy Hayes Proof = 3,868
Lucy Hayes Unc = 2,196
Lucretia Garfield Proof = 3,653
Lucretia Garfield Unc = 2,168

Note that as suggested in this column several times, the two key coins are the 2011 uncirculated Garfield and Hayes coins, which are the lowest mintage U.S. coins of the modern era, or past 100 years.

 

golino The Coin Analyst: U.S. Mint News   Modern Coins UpdateLouis Golino is a coin collector and numismatic writer, whose articles on coins have appeared in Coin WorldNumismatic News, and a number of different coin web sites. His insightful retrospective on the American Silver Eagle is the cover feature of the February 2014 issue of The Numismatist. His column for CoinWeek, “The Coin Analyst,” covers U.S. and world coins and precious metals. He collects U.S. and European coins and is a member of the ANAPCGSNGC, and CAC. He has also worked for the U.S. Library of Congress and has been a syndicated columnist and news analyst on international affairs for a wide variety of newspapers and web sites.

About the Author:

Louis Golino is a numismatic journalist and writer specializing in modern coin issues. He has been writing a weekly column for Coin Week since May 2011 called "The Coin Analyst," which focuses primarily on modern U.S. and world coins and developments at major world mints, and is also a contributor to two magazines, American Hard Assets and the Numismatist, the American Numismatic Association's monthly publication. His work has also appeared in Coin World, Numismatic News, and various coin web sites. He collects classic and modern U.S. coins and modern world coins from a number of different countries. He first joined the ANA in the 1970's. He has also worked for the Congressional Research Service of the Library of Congress and has been a syndicated columnist and news analyst on international affairs for a wide variety of publications. He has been writing professionally since the early 1980's.

15 Comments on "The Coin Analyst: U.S. Mint News – Modern Coins Update"

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  1. Scott says:

    The mint should make the Kennedy Gold coins a smaller diameter than the regular issue with either one ounce or half ounce gold replacing the “half dollar” on the reverse. My preference would be an ultra high relief one ounce coin similar to the 2009 double eagle.

  2. Kennedy 50th Anniversary Gold Coin says:

    In regards to the proposed 2014 John F. Kennedy 50th Anniversary Gold Coin, I concur that its design should distinguish it as much as possible from the ordinary half dollar. Therefore it should have a dual date (1964-2014) and have indicated its gold fineness and have a “W” mintmark for the West Point Mint. I do not like selectively plated or colorized coins, because of their artificiality,

  3. Berneck says:

    It’s a nice testament to the beauty of this coin that they want to make it exactly the same as the original. However, it’s not a smart idea. They need to make the gold coin as distinguishable as possible from the original, yet keep the aesthetics of the original. I prefer, a one ounce, larger or high relief coin. Double date is nice and makes it even more distinct, as well as the gold content and fineness. I also think it should be a $50 coin.

    Sadly there are a lot of dishonest people who will paint half dollars. This coin needs to be different enough to prevent that.

  4. Scott says:

    Seriously, why would put a dual date on a coin unless it was commemorating the anniversary of an major event such as the U.S. bicentennial or even Kennedy’s birth. A dual date to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the first Kennedy Half Dollar? No thanks, that just seems silly to me.

  5. Koichi Ito says:

    If so we should make 2014 proof coin set in gold too? At Royal Australian Mint makes proof set in gold version.

  6. Ikaika says:

    Thank you for the article Louis. Always looking forward to reading them!

    As a collector of the 5 oz ATB’s, I wonder why does the US Mint need approval from the Secretary of Treasure on a yearly basis? I understand that some adjustments maybe needed based on demand, but this yearly basis approval makes it difficult for many collectors to buy all the coins, since they are released in a short period of time. Could it be to give the Secretary of Treasure something to do or should we believe in their explanation? :)

  7. Taxman274 says:

    Yes, the mint issues other gold coins and there are a select few that collect them – that’s no reason to ruin the Kennedy collection for those that already collect them. Most Kennedy collectors will not be able to purchases the gold version. Thanks again greedy US Mint.

  8. Mel Ramsey says:

    I beleive they should stay with the original Kennedy design and produce a .9999 one ounce pure silver bullion where collectors of Kennedy’s like myself could afford to buy one for their collection. Household sales from the mint not just for distributors only. They could make a two coin set (proof & reverse proof)

    • Louis says:

      Mel,
      The Mint has already stated it is issuing a special 4 coin silver set and a clad set, but it will not include a one ounce coin. They will all be in the original weight and design but with different finishes and mintmarks.
      We are well past the point of people expressing their preferred dream coins. The coins are being made now.
      Also, the gold coin is apparently a go, and I will be discussing the details in my column.

  9. Kaan says:

    It may well be past the time on the coins (I for one think the gold coin is too much esp. for the young collectors who would like to keep their Kennedy collection complete)
    but I would like to know if the Mint REALLY took the results of the survey before presenting their idea??. Have they published the results and what was the preference for the gold coin?

    • Louis says:

      The Mint has not published the survey results, but it did recently decide to make the coin and took the results into account. I will have more details soon.

      • Jamil says:

        Hi Louis, thanks for the great article. You said the Mint has recently decided to make the Gold coin and you will have more details soon, sorry I am just anxious for news on it. Do you have specifics on the Gold coin and what has been decided? If not do you know when you might write an article with such details? Also do we know when the silver and gold coins will go on sale this year? Thanks in advance!

  10. Brett Johnson says:

    Hi Louis, great article as always. Mixed emotions on the release of a gold Kennedy, positives and negatives in both columns for the coin.

    Anyway, what do you think we are looking at for a price on the HOF UNC and Proof golds? Think the mint is going to jack the price because of the “manufacturing” expense, or stick with the normal price for the $5 comms? I’ve searched online for indicators for a potential price base but have been unsuccessful so far.

    Thanks in advance,
    Brett J

    • Louis says:

      Hi Brett,
      Thanks very much.
      I suspect the price will be in line with what $5 gold commems are normally sold for. While making these coins involved some new techniques, it was not as demanding as say the 2009 UHR, plus the boxes should be the regular blue ones.

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